‘Alls I’m saying is who are we to say getting incest or abused or violated or whatever or any of those things can’t also have their positive aspects for a human being in the long run. Everybody gets hurt and violated and broken sometimes, why are women so special? I’m talking about dignity and respect, not treating them like they’re fragile little dolls or whatever. That we have to wrap them in cotton and protect them more than everybody else. Like we have to wrap them in cotton and protect them more than everybody else. But I’m saying especially in the case of women, where it adds up to this very limited condescending thing of saying they’re fragile or breakable things and can be destroyed so easily.

Having a knee-jerk attitude about anything is a total mistake, that’s what I’m saying. ‘Alls I was trying to say is you have got to be careful of taking a knee-jerk attitude about violence and degradation in the case of women also. It’s a totally great book and now think about it, if there wasn’t a Holocaust there wouldn’t be a Man’s Search for Meaning. Frankl was in a camp in the Holocaust and the book comes out of that experience, it’s about his experience in the human Dark Side and preserving his human identity in the face of the camp’s degradation and the violence and suffering’s total ripping away of his identity. But did you ever read Victor Frankl? Victor Frankl’s Man’s Search for Meaning? It’s a great, great book. Does anybody think it was good it happened: no way.

‘Alls I’m – or think about the Holocaust.

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